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Winona Campus NewsletterPatience and dissertation research
“It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done better.
The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again,
Because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause;
Who at best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly…”
This famous quote, is from Theodore Roosevelt’s speech “Citizenship in a Republic” on April 23, 1910. Recently brought back to our attention in the writings of Brené Brown’s New York Times bestseller “Daring greatly: How the courage to be vulnerable transforms the way we live, love, parent, and lead,” offers insight to the importance of patience, perseverance, and resilience when pursing “high achievement;” for our purposes, the process of completing a dissertation. (Interestingly, this speech was delivered at The Sorbonne, a University in Paris where the founder of the Lasalllian schools, St. John Baptiste De Lasalle, had studied in 1670-1672.)
In a Lasalllian educational approach, patience is presented as one of the twelve virtues of a good teacher. Patience is a virtue that helps us “overcome” the challenges of life; including those challenges in our teaching, research, and writing. As the Roosevelt quote suggests, it is the very act of continuing to respond to challenge, with good spirit, resolve, critical and flexible thinking, and a continued focus toward positive progress that is where we are flourishing in a state of “flow” and at our best.
Conducting original research and writing a dissertation is a lengthy process. We (the faculty) hope the process also is transformative to your thinking. This transformation brings change, process, and challenges. You must orchestrate the many variables of methodology, participants, data collection, statistics and analysis, interpretation, writing in APA, and of course, scheduling time for and understanding commentary and feedback from your committee members. Students sometimes ask us, “How fast can I write a dissertation?” After cringing, our general answer is: “The real question you should ask is ‘how can I write a dissertation well?’” I think both Theodore Roosevelt and St. John Baptiste De Lasalle would agree with our approach to dissertation writing: engage fully in the process, commit yourself to a worthy cause in research, and dare greatly.
Brown, B. (2012). Daring greatly: How courage to be vulnerable transforms the way we live, love, parent and
lead. New York, NY: Gotham 978-1-592-40733-0.
The intersection of patience and social justice
It is no secret; patience is a virtue. Many children’s parables inform us of the need for patience. Some of us may even be familiar with the famous marshmallow experiment conducted over 40 years ago. The lesson is, if we wait and follow directions, we will receive a just reward.
Br. Agathon illuminates the importance of patience. He asserts that it affords us the capacity to overcome trammels. He continues by espousing that patience is not only essential for promoting human flourishing, but it also affords us the ability to overcome our trials and ills. In the context of teaching, Br. Agathon reminds us not to despair when engaging with a recalcitrant student. By demonstrating patience and other fruitful virtues, the young person may imbibe the positive character traits. There is no debate; patience helps to promote an engaging classroom as well as a flourishing community.
However, Aristotle avows the need to adjudicate various virtues by exhibiting phronesis or practical wisdom. He acknowledges the value inherent in the various virtues, but suggests true human flourishing rests with the ability to leverage various virtues in a sagacious manner. As such, the author will briefly explore the intersection of patience and social justice.
Social justice is the substrate of one of the five Lasallian core principles. It prods us not to ignore the voices of the marginalized, and not to abscond from the cries of the victims of physical and economic violence. Social justice is the voice in our hearts and minds encouraging us to engage in assisting the historically disenfranchised. We are called to do so because social justice helps to promote human flourishing.
At the finish line of social justice, every child, regardless of color, creed, or economic beginnings is gifted with the ability to realize her or his fullest potential. If this is so, how can we be patient in the presence of social injustice? How can we take pleasure in saying, things are getting better? Is it wise to celebrate our probity as we say to ourselves, look how far we have come? How is less brutality a virtue? A wise man alluded to the analogy, if you stick a knife in my back 10 inches and remove it by six inches that is not progress.
Patience has its place as it is one of the virtues of a flourishing society. However, phronesis is a meta-virtue that allows us to consider context, and based on the contours of our reality, it informs us which virtue to call on. As it pertains to the current and historic crimes against humanity, it would seem only logical that social justice should take precedence. In the miasma of our existential reality, we should put the virtue of patience on the shelf and leverage our core values to help promote human flourishing.
Patience: A commodity in short supply
Why is the microwave so slow? Why is traffic so slow? Why is my computer so slow? I wish things were faster.
For many, patience may be in short supply. This is probably why there are such things as road rage, snapping at others, and getting frustrated easily. When many of us hear the word patience, the ancient saying “patience is a virtue” comes to mind. Also, a gut reaction for many is, “I don’t have patience.” The consequence of being impatient is often bad decisions. However, we have the power to increase our patience. It is only a matter of choice.
Ironically in today’s fast-paced world, it seems we are pushed to embrace an impatient attitude. Impatience often conveys a sense of importance, busyness, urgency, etc. If we do not act with impatience, we are seen as slackers or having a lackadaisical attitude. And, since time is money, we therefore can’t be trusted to get the job done in a timely manner. To avoid this label, impatience is often worn as a badge of honor. Many of us have said or heard colleagues say, “I’m up to my eyeballs in work.” While this may be true for some, we should strive to practice more patience because many hasty decisions often yield disastrous results and many regrets.
In this essay, I will share with you my relationship with patience and how I developed it. In a previous essay, I mentioned I like gardening. This hobby started before I was ten. I can remember helping my mom plant seeds and she would tell me how many days they would take to germinate. Now, many seeds take a few days to germinate, but I can remember taking a small twig and digging up the seeds the very next day. Seeing no germination I would rebury them. The next day or two I would dig them up again. This time, I may see the roots sprouting, but the process of digging them up would damage the roots of many seeds. As a result, the vibrancy of the plant was compromised.
I did the same thing when we planted potatoes. From the time the potato “seeds” are planted, it takes about 70-120 days to harvest mature potatoes. Well, as a child, I was not prepared to wait that long. Within the first week, I was digging up the seeds to see if they were growing. Most likely, this negatively affected the development of the plant. As soon as the plant grew and looked mature to me, I would dig away at the roots to see if there were any potatoes. In my impatience, I was destroying the roots needed to develop a successful crop.
In the first 50 days in the life of a potato, nothing much happens in terms of development. The plant is spending lots of energy growing foliage to capture energy from the sun and sending feeder roots out to capture the nutrients from the surrounding soil. It is only after the leaves and roots are developed that the plant will use them to develop the potatoes. The healthier the plant, the greater the capacity it has to store energy in the form of potatoes. Most of the development of potatoes takes place in the last three weeks.
So, when my impatience got the better of me and I dug up the plants to see how the potatoes were developing, I was actually sabotaging my efforts and the subsequent potato crop. The learning for me was patience will yield great results. However, it was necessary to do the ground work and properly prepare the soil in a sunny location before planting the potato seeds. After care include pulling weeds, watering, checking for bugs, and a few months of patiently waiting, a huge crop awaits harvesting. Even a few weeks too soon could reduce the yield by more than 50 percent. Patience does bear dividends.
Over the years, my patience has been well rewarded with many great potato crops. Digging potatoes is also one of my biggest gardening joys. So much so, that I have invited many people to my garden to experience the joy of harvesting fully-grown potatoes. To me, in addition to a sense of achievement, it is the anticipation of what will be harvested. It is the culmination of patiently waiting for the plant to do its thing. This is very different from flowers, and things that grow above ground where you can see the progress of flowers and fruits.
The process of planting potatoes and patiently waiting has been reinforced over the decades. So, today, to summon my patience gene all I have to do is think of waiting patiently for rewards and not allow my impatience to destroy the very thing I want. For example, in relationships our impatience with people is often what destroys our connection with them.
From an academic perspective, the concept of waiting can be explained using emotional intelligence (EQ). Two of the major components of EQ are self-awareness and self-management. The former is being aware of one’s emotions. The latter is effectively managing them. In managing emotions, one must be aware of one’s beliefs, values, and assumptions. These are the things that drive behavior. Therefore, it is crucial to become self-aware of these things. By changing your beliefs, values, and assumptions via self-management, you will change your behaviors.
In closing, I wish you well as you develop your EQ and become better at mastering your impatient impulses. Patience does yield great dividends.
My dissertation is on EQ. If you are interested in learning more about the subject, please feel free to contact me.
“Be Water, My Friends”
A few days ago a colleague of mine, recently retired, concluded an email with “Be Water, My Friends,” an adage made famous by the actor and martial artist Bruce Lee. I know little about Bruce Lee, but reading these words at that specific time, one of change and uncertainty for many of us, resonated with me. Taking a break from my long “to do” list, I did a little research and came across this quote, which deepened my understanding of his philosophy:
“Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle and it becomes the bottle. You put it in a teapot it becomes the teapot. Now, water can flow or it can crash. Be water my friend.” – Bruce Lee
Life today is marked by both unpredictability and impatience. We find it difficult to wait for an answer, whether that’s an email from a coworker or the results of a national election. In uncertain times, one response is to become rigid, to enforce structure on our days in an attempt to regain control, or perhaps to prove our worth. Although I won’t attempt to capture the complexity of Lee’s philosophy, it serves as a welcome reminder to be open and adaptable in the midst of change and even chaos.
The importance of adaptability even relates to the small, yet surprisingly challenging task of writing this newsletter post. I embarked with a sense of what I thought my readers expected of me: I would compose a neatly written essay on patience and the writing process, with takeaways applicable to writing in the DBA program and particularly the dissertation. I became frustrated when I was uninspired to write this imagined article. Unlike water, which changes form and has no expectations of what it will encounter, I was rigidly attached to my original plan. And despite teaching students to embrace the messiness of writing–as Anne Lamott puts it, our “shitty first drafts.” I struggled with impatience, not understanding why I grasped for words of wisdom. I know the frustration of spending hours putting words to paper, only to use a fraction of that work. At such points, including this one, I remind myself that writing is thinking–it is through writing that we develop our ideas, arrive at new realizations, and begin to form a cogent narrative.
To illustrate, an openness to Bruce Lee’s water metaphor helped me tap into my intuition and ultimately, if circuitously, arrive at my original topic of patience and writing. For those writing the dissertation, specifically, you may have a plan for your research question, methods, even your timeline to completion. While having a plan is wise and necessary, expect to encounter forks in the road ahead of you. On my own path to the dissertation, I faced unforeseen challenges that required me to change my topic and advisor; what helped me remain centered and motivated was a conviction that there are many good dissertations (after all, a good dissertation is a done dissertation), and that the unexpected obstacles were themselves an integral, even required, part of earning a doctorate that would only prepare me to meet future challenges. It has just now occurred to me that the times when I became like water were among my most productive and enriching, as a student of writing and as a student of life.
Meet Patience
Meet Patience:
Patience eventually arrives for class, and sits unnoticed in the back. She shares a table with Peace.
She’s a great listener. You feel heard. You feel valued. You feel appreciated.
She is selfless.
Patience practices her presentations until they are timed perfectly. Her dissertation will be bound in two volumes; she is in no rush to finish—delays and disruptions are welcomed—it gives her more time to learn, read, think, write, and re-write.
She meditates, journals, and is rarely ill.
Good things always find her.
Success as a process, not an outcome
Being a student is one of the most fulfilling and frustrating life experiences. It’s a role where there is so much to gain, yet every new experience can feel draining. A reservoir of patience and contentedness are key to seeing this journey through, and even enjoying the ride along the way.
I recently decided to step back into the role of student and am finding out, as many of you might be as well, having patience while learning is easier said than practiced. Soon after I started, I was confronted by old habits and desires for a schedule or flow – some force to subconsciously propel me while I glided along. Combined with pressures of work and home life, it didn’t take long for stress to set in and leave me feeling as though I was struggling to stay above the proverbial water. Add in the uncertainty of our current global crisis, and excelling as a student can feel impossible.
When I began thinking about how I should approach this article, I sought out wisdom and advice to reaffirm students who find themselves in this position, myself included. Thankfully, such affirmation was not hard to find.
John Wooden knew quite a bit about success. His ten National Collegiate Athletic Association basketball championships for the University of California, Los Angeles are not so much a testament to his technique, but his values and beliefs lived out. In a TED Talk, Wooden (2001) presented his own definition of success as, “peace of mind attained only through self-satisfaction in knowing you made the effort to do the best of which you’re capable.” (Wooden, 2001) Wooden goes on to say with this mindset, winning, or the results of one’s efforts, are the byproduct.
In some ways Wooden’s thoughts confirmed something I already knew: success is not equal to perfection. In general, people understand perfection is not realistic and that others will not expect them to be perfect. Yet, it is difficult to set this notion aside in favor of trusting in one’s abilities and affording oneself some patience.
The instant satisfaction of “getting it right” or receiving a grade is tempting, but not sustainable. Shifting one’s thinking of success as something external to be won, to something internal to be grown over time entirely changes the meaning of it. When success becomes a state in which one is satisfied with his or her effort, the means by which success is achieved is patience.
This aspect of success can be a truly challenging one. Through the process of learning, failure, having to reconsider one’s point of view, and having to start all over are inevitable. It takes patience to grant oneself time and forgiveness to move past such things and glean what value can be found from them.
The outcome of learning is satisfying, and with a fresh view on success and ample patience, the journey of learning can be equally as fulfilling.
Wooden, John (2001, February). The difference between winning and succeeding. [Video]. TED
Conferences. https://www.ted.com/talks/john_wooden_the_difference_between_winning_and_suceeding?language=en
Career Services upcoming events
Upcoming events:
MN Private Nonprofit and Government Jobs Fair – Friday, Oct. 30, delivered virtually, 11 a.m. to 2 p.m.
If you are interested in a career in Public Service, this fair is for you! Visit with representatives of government agencies and non-profit organizations, all from the convenience of your room.
For more information about the fair including the registered vendors, go to: http://www.togpartners.com/govnonprofitfair.
The event is free and open to all Saint Mary’s students and alumni, but REGISTRATION IS REQUIRED. Once you register, you will receive a confirmation email, which will include a log-in link specific to you and further instructions.
Internships-An Overview workshop – Tuesday, Nov. 3, delivered virtually, 3:45 to 4:15 p.m.
The meeting is free, but you must register in advance to attend.
Are you thinking about registering for an internship for credit next semester? Come join this brief but informative meeting to learn the ins and outs of registering for an internship, INCLUDING THE NEW REGISTRATION PROCESS AND FORMAT.
An internship might be the most important thing you do to prepare for your career while in college. In most cases, students who graduate with an internship get hired more quickly and get paid more than their classmates who do not participate in an internship.
Participants in this workshop will discuss how to find and secure internships and learn the procedures in securing the internships for academic credit.
Disability Virtual Career Fair – Tuesday, Nov. 10, online, 8 a.m. to 5 p.m.
If you’re an individual with a disability looking for employment or internships, register now for this free fair. Early registration will give employers access to your résumé as soon as they register for this event. You can chat online with employers across the county who are ready to hire you.
Spotlight on Intern:
Our intern this week is Bryttany Wener, a senior Criminal Justice: Law Enforcement major, who shares about her experiences at the Pierce County Jail.
Major Responsibilities: Supervising daily activities of inmates, maintaining safety and security, investigating incidents including disturbances, assaults, and escapes, enforcing the rules and regulations of the jail, booking in new inmates, sending out and replying to emails, writing reports and incidents, working as a team with my coworkers by communicating with each other, learning how to communicate with inmates and using problem solving skills to solve issues around the jail.
How did I find out about this internship? Most of my family is in law enforcement, and I have known the sheriff of Pierce County for a few years. Sheriff Nancy is a very good friend of my family and was very generous in giving me this opportunity to get my foot in the door and see if I could potentially see myself working in a jail.
Favorite part of the internship? One of my favorite parts about working at the jail is being able to interact with the inmates. I think it is really important because communication in this field is a huge part of the job! Many of my coworkers have mentioned that we are here to make it easier for them, not more difficult ,and that includes just listening to them and talking with them.
Most challenging part? I think one of the most challenging parts about working at the jail is being confident. Sometimes it can be hard to be sure of what you are doing without questioning yourself first. I was told “if you don’t know what you’re doing, act like you do.” I found it important to ask a lot of questions throughout my training process to gain the confidence that is needed in this job.
Biggest lesson learned at internship? The biggest lesson I learned was to work with your coworkers as a team. In law enforcement it is very important to work together and have each other’s backs. Asking them questions is really important as is discussing what you think should be done in certain situations, instead of jumping right into things.
Advice for others considering an internship: I think, going into this internship, I was very nervous and wasn’t really sure what to expect ,but I’ve gained so much experience and it’s helped me realize what I really want to do with my future. My advice is to just go for it because you never know what you will learn along the way, and it may help you determine whether you want to continue working in this profession or change your career.
Coming up in Campus Ministry
MASK-QUERADE
Saturday | Oct. 31 | 7 p.m. | Gostomski Fieldhouse
Come learn socially distanced line dances, decorate masks, and enjoy some treats in celebration of All Hallows’ Eve!
SET APART
Saturday | Nov.14 | 10 a.m. to 6 p.m.
Join Campus Ministry and Deprecor in Page Theater for an unforgettable day retreat, featuring speakers from the Christian Brothers, Campus Ministry, and the student body. All are welcome! Sign up with the Office of Campus Ministry.
BE A PEN PAL WITH A SENIOR CITIZEN!
Do you have 10 minutes to spare? Project pen pal is a collaborative initiative with Character and Virtue Education and Campus Ministry. If interested, contact eve@smumn.edu.
The election is coming! The USCCB offers a resource to prepare your conscience.
SAC events: Oct. 28-31
The Student Activities Committee (SAC) invites all community members to the following events. As a reminder, SAC hosts free events for EVERYONE on campus, and all students are encouraged to attend.
Halloween Bingo
Thursday, Oct. 29, 7 p.m., via Zoom
Want to win some SPOOOKY prizes? Play some virtual trivia with SAC to get into the Halloween spirit! Sign up via the link above to participate. Can’t make the whole event? No worries, you can come and go as needed.
Halloween Movie Marathon
Friday, Oct. 30, 7 p.m., Gostomski Field House
it is time to get in your fix of Halloween movies with SAC! SAC will be showing two Halloween classic movies that everyone knows, and will be hosting a costume contest in between. Due to COVID-19, the costume contest will be for individual costumes only; no group costumes are permitted. The categories are funniest costume, creative costume, and scariest costume. All winners will receive a bucket of candy, second place will receive a SAC T-shirt, and first place will receive a SAC sweatshirt. Costumes are not necessary to attend, but are welcome. Light refreshments will be provide;, please bring your own blankets and pillows.
Dias Di Los Muertos Display
Saturday, Oct. 31 – Friday, Nov. 6, first floor, Saint Mary’s Hall
Looking ahead…
Thursday, Nov. 5: Jackbox Game Night (Sign up here)
Friday, Nov. 6: Marvel Trivia
Saturday, Nov. 7: Rocket League Tournament (Sign up here)
Sunday, Nov. 8: Build a Bonfire Workshop
Interested in joining the Student Activities Committee?
Email president Sarah Fowler at safowl17@smumn.edu.
Student Senate Minutes, Oct. 27
Student Senate – Oct. 27, 2020
The meeting was called to order at 7 p.m. by President Kendall Archer.
A prayer was said by Collin van Waardenburg.
Members present: Cece Abel, Kendall Archer, Samantha Carlson, Larkin Clem, Sarah Fowler, Mary Furlong, Gabriel Graves, Noah Kimel, Megan Kowalis, Jonathon Krull, Abby Lang, Tom Magnavite (proxy Andrew Frose), Allison Moysis, Nicole Noreen, Lyanna Novak, Enitan Onayiga, Sophia O’Neil, Angel Sacta Espinoza, Joseph Schauf, Collin van Waardenburg, Destiny Walker, and Ryan Stoynich
Members absent: Jake Emeott, and Lily Klein
Members excused: Tom Magnavite (proxy Andrew Frose), Tara Nikolich, and Marcos Pedroza
Discussion items
- Executive Board Updates
- Kendall Archer, president
- Reaching out to Minnesota college student senate presidents to form a group to discuss adhering to COVID-19 guidelines.
- Disrespect reported towards librarians; please be nice to them and remember to wear your mask
- If you are leaving campus, fill out the travel notification form.
- Marcos Pedroza, vice president of Media and Communications
- No updates
- Angel Sacta Espinosa, vice president for Campus Affairs
- No updates
- Nicole Noreen, vice president for Financial Affairs
- The first budget request was received, will be brought up to full senate next week
- Destiny Walker, vice president for Multicultural Affairs
- Holding a conversation with Winona mayoral candidate Jovy Rocky
- Email her for the Zoom link to attend
- Holding a conversation with Winona mayoral candidate Jovy Rocky
- Mary Furlong, vice president for Academic Affairs
- Keep an eye out for registration information coming in the next week.
- Elijah Williams, vice president for Student Life
- Contact him to join a committee regarding Chartwells
- Specifically focusing on time constraints
- Meeting set up with Kat Freihammer, counselor, and Christina Uribe Nitti, director of Health Services, Wellness Center, to discuss student mental health
- Look at the flyers for the upcoming Ted Talks
- Door decorating contest will be voted on this week; watch your emails for more information
- Contact him to join a committee regarding Chartwells
- Megan Kowalis, vice president for Public Affairs
- Prepping for election
- Jonathon Krull, executive assistant
- Looking for ethics committee members
- Will be addressing attendance issues for senators
- Looking for ethics committee members
- Sarah Fowler, SAC president
- Thursday will be virtual Halloween bingo
- Friday will be Halloween movies
- Marisa Quinn, adviser
- No reports
- Kendall Archer, president
- Class officer reports
- Freshman: No reports
- Sophomore: No reports
- Junior: No reports
- Senior: No reports
- Senator concerns
- None
- Motion to adjourn
- Time: 7:18 p.m.
Meet with a peer learning assistant today
Peer learning assistants are staffing Room 19 of the Hendrickson Center and also meeting online. Schedule a meeting using the peer learning assistant calendar and make an academic plan for the remainder of this semester.
It’s not too late to sign up for tutoring
Sign up for tutoring at smumn.joinknack.com using your SMUMN student account.
If you have any questions about working with these tutors, please email Joe Dulak. If you experience any technical difficulties with Knack, please email support@joinknack.com.
Need help with writing papers? Contact the Saint Mary’s Writing Center.

Leaders of opposite parties stand united
Jonathon Krull, president of the College Republicans, and Clare Bath, president of the College Democrats, stand on opposite sides of many national issues yet stand united on two fronts: empowering students to vote and the need to model civil discourse, particularly during this divisive national election.
Despite their differences, both students share similar backgrounds and goals, as well as a sincere love of the democratic process.
Krull is a sophomore majoring in political science; Bath is a senior double majoring in political science and history. Whereas Bath is interested in international issues — focusing on the Middle East and North Africa — Krull hopes one day to run for political office. Both see politics as a way to help people and to make a positive difference locally and globally.
Both grew up immersed in politics. Krull’s father is an alderman in his hometown of Seymour, Wis. The Krull family always watched the news, and politics was a frequent topic of discussion in his household. Bath’s father is a political science professor at Concordia Moorehead; likewise her family openly and frequently discussed political matters.
Both college political leaders believe it’s critical that their peers vote, regardless of how they are voting. In a joint project with the President’s Office, the Student Senate, and the College Republicans and Democrats, Bath and Krull assisted with hosting a voter registration drive, included voting information in newsletters and on social media, put up flyers with informational QR codes; passed out “I will vote” stickers; and spoke to classes. Bath alone spoke to 30 classes about how to register to vote, and the various voting options.
And both Bath and Krull believe our nation’s leaders, representing both major parties, can and should do better. They’re tired of what they call hyperpartisanship, increased fear mongering, and name calling. And both found it too difficult to watch the entire first presidential debate because it was too painful.
“It was very unbecoming of the office. Political offices are esteemed offices,” Krull said. “And people should be civil when in office; I’d like to see it return to that. We can respectfully disagree with one another. It’s important to see where the other person is coming from and how they got there. Instead of accusing and name calling, we should be coming up with well-founded arguments and having a civil discussion.”
Bath agrees. “Showing civil discourse is very important,” she said. “In my mind, there are two benefits. By listening to others’ points of view, you can reemphasize and legitimize your own point of view. You can also appreciate another person’s point of view and think about how it relates to or shapes your own political philosophies. It shouldn’t be ‘We have different views so I’m not going to listen.’ It should be ‘I’m going to hear your point of view because you may have different experiences than I may have had.’ ”
Bath and Krull believe the country has grown increasingly and alarmingly divisive, particularly since 2016.
“I think politics in the last eight years has been partisan to the extreme and that’s really frustrating,” Bath said. She believes civil discourse must first be modeled by the current administration. “In the last four or so years, hate speech found a safe place in America,” she said. “Commonly coined terms have been used to brush off mainstream media. We’ve delegitmize other people’s voices and struggles in America. These perspectives, rooted in hatred, have really blossomed.
Krull believes social media has played a significant role in creating a bigger rift between the two parties. He’s currently researching its role in hyperpartisanship. “It’s an echo chamber,” he said. People sound out their own views and don’t want to read or believe anything that differs from their own viewpoint. There’s a confirmation bias; they only seek articles that support their viewpoint. People are more entrenched in their own views than ever before.”
Both are nervous for the post-election fallout, regardless of who wins.
Bath is more worried about riots and violence in larger cities. “We’re a small enough campus that people are aware who believes what. I believe there are very few instances of disrespect. I give Saint Mary’s students a lot of credit for being Minnesota nice. In terms of the nation, it’s worrisome coming from either perspective, especially in light of social justice issues. It’s absolutely terrifying, no matter what side of the political spectrum you’re on. It’s so frustrating that we’ve gone from ‘our rights’ to ‘my rights.’ ”
Krull believes emotions will run high this Nov. 3. “Regardless of which side wins, the other side will feel it’s the end of the world,” he said. “All the hyperpartisanship and fear mongering the candidates like to throw out doesn’t help with trying to slow that down. On campus, students want to listen to the other viewpoint and have that civil discussion, that’s something the rest of the nation can learn from. Regardless, we’ve reached a point where we need to try to turn back and fix our problems.”
So how do we begin to turn things around? Bath and Krull believe it’ll take all of us showing character and virtue with open mindedness, patience, civility, honesty, compassion, and justice.
Krull references the close relationship democratic Vice President Joe Biden had with republican presidential candidate the late John McCain. And he recalls how the late Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg and former Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia were on opposite ends of the political spectrum but remained close friends. “I’d like (national politicians) to take the viewpoint that although politics is their life, the greater good of the country comes first. It’s country first, politics or party second, and I think that’s the mindset they have to get back to. The constituents are the focus, not your own party.”
For Bath it’s about sticking to politics and not letting it degrade into pettiness. “It’s a shift in culture,” she said. “It has potential to happen with new leadership, but it’s going to take everyone holding ourselves and our neighbors accountable.”