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Saint Mary’s music alumni reunite for Heukeshoven farewell
After enjoying over 30 years of making music with Saint Mary’s University students, Dr. Janet and Eric Heukeshoven have chosen to close this chapter of their teaching careers. To celebrate the impact music has made in their lives and the lives of their students, a special Music Alumni Reunion Weekend is planned with alumni from many decades returning to sing and play.
The choir performance will take place in the sumptuous Chapel of Saint Mary of the Angels on Saturday, April 15, at 7:30 p.m. From choral classics like Shenendoah to rousing spirituals such as Witness, the Concert Choir and Madrigal Singers will be joined by alumni and former director of choral studies, Dr. Patrick O’Shea.
On Sunday, April 16, the Jazz Ensemble and Concert Band will present All Good Things … on the Page Theatre stage at 3 p.m. The performance will open with Jazz at Saint Mary’s performing favorite tunes selected by current and former musicians. Highlights will include Sing Sing Sing featuring multiple drummers, 25 or 6 to 4 with numerous guitar soloists, Hey Jude featuring several vocal jazz alumni, and Tenor Madness giving current and former tenor sax players a chance to shine.
Following a brief intermission, the Concert Band will premiere “Towards the Stars” – a brand new work commissioned for the band with generous assistance from the Kaplan Foundation. Composer Benjamin Dean Taylor will introduce his vibrant new composition to the audience. Music education alum, Dr. Lynn Albee, will guest conduct The Elephant and the Flea – a duet for piccolo and euphonium performed by the Heukeshovens. Band alumni will join current students to perform Gustav Holst’s classic First Suite in Eb. The concert will conclude with the Alma Mater performed by all players, singers, and audience members. A reception in the Toner Student Center will follow.
Both performances are free and open to the public. For more information, contact Dr. Janet Heukeshoven – jheukesh@smumn.edu.
Q&A with M.A. in Counseling and Psychological Services graduate
Name
LJ (John) Taugher
Program
Counseling and Psychological Services M.A. Program
Completion date
June 2020
Why did you choose Saint Mary’s?
They were supportive of people restarting their careers and returning to school to do so.
What can you do with a M.A. in Counseling and Psychological Services?
Primarily work as a therapist in a range in populations and types of settings – in clinics, with children or adults. Work as a therapist.
What made you decide to go back to school? Why was the timing right?
I’m looking at a needlepoint of my family’s motto: Taugher’s rule. If life’s not cool, it’s back to school. I’ll be the ninth person in my family to be called “doctor” in medicine, dentistry, sociology, linguistics, and now psychology. The timing was right after being recently through rehab. Life was upended, and I was ready for change. It was easy to commit to what was needed for a degree when everything has been disrupted.
What has your experience been like?/What did you enjoy the most?
At Saint Mary’s there’s a passion for growth, an environment that encourages development. You’re not supposed to know this yet. That’s why you’re here. How do we help you learn? I enjoyed that I was able to engage with the faculty more as a future peer, rather than, “We’re the faculty, you’re the student.”
What do you think makes our program stand apart?
The focus is on people who have had other careers and want a change, and the school’s desire to have education be affordable.
What do you do for a career?
Currently I’m in the doctoral program and working as a program manager in virtual reality therapy at Ellie Mental Health, a practicum therapist and researcher.
Did you find it applicable to your career?
Yes. It set the foundation.
Will this degree help you further your career or help you in your career?
It already has allowed me to work as a therapist and foundation to set groundwork to get a doctorate.
Was it “doable” for a busy adult?
Yes. Saint Mary’s program is designed for someone working in mind.
Would you recommend the program? And why?
I do, and I have, many times. It’s a solid education, allows someone working to get the degree, and it’s one of the most affordable in the Twin Cities.
Q&A with M.A. in Counseling and Psychological Services graduate
Name
Roberta Reindorf
Program
Counseling and Psychological Services Master of Arts Program
Completion date
June 2023
Why did you choose Saint Mary’s?
I was researching courses to enhance my background, and I saw Saint Mary’s has a lot of diversity, people like me and a variety of people with different backgrounds and cultures. You see Germans and Italians, and people speak from different perspectives in class.
What can you do with a M.A. in Counseling and Psychological Services?
A lot of things, it’s very broad: work in H.R., be an instructor, go to the doctoral level, do research, work in mental health and government, which is what I’m doing. There’s a lot you can do with counseling and psychological services.
What made you decide to go back to school? Why was the timing right?
My purpose in coming to this country was to go to school. I’m focused on why I came here: To go to school. Along the way there was COVID-19 and the death of my husband, but I kept my focus on my education. I started something, I had to finish it. COVID has passed, social distancing ended, life continues.
What has your experience been like?/What did you enjoy the most?
I enjoy advocating for others, those people struggling with mental illness. I enjoy reaching a goal, helping others, being part of the solution. When I speak at the Race, Equity Advisory Council for Hennepin County, I seem like a scholar. I enjoy helping people with struggles. I’ve been going nonstop. If not for the deaths in my family and COVID, I would have accomplished more. I started when I was 15 and never stopped. I’m considering the Ph.D. program.
What do you think makes our program stand apart?
Diversity. When George Floyd hit, the whole world was protesting for equality and against discrimination. I had Somalian instructors, scholars teaching me. I see Black and white instructors connecting and working together. A lot of immigrants are there. We share the experience. Instructors are helpful; very, very helpful. The biggest was diversity and inclusivity in the heart of people. Equitable services for all. Every company today has diversity and inclusion managers. I wish Saint Mary’s had a curriculum for diversity and inclusivity. I want them to call me so I can be part of the groundbreaking.
What do you do for a career?
I’ve worked at Ramsey County Children’s Mental Health as a mental health practitioner for five years.
Did you find it applicable to your career?
As a mental health practitioner the requirement is a Master’s in Counseling Psychology; a Master’s in Clinical Social Work; or a Master’s in Marriage and Family Therapy. I’ve completed the entire program, and the county gave me space and time to gain licensure. I’ll be a mental health professional when I finish.
Will this degree help you further your career or help you in your career?
Yes.
Was it “doable” for a busy adult?
You have to be determined. You have to be focused. The course is doable, then 700 hours of clinicals. Yes, if you know what you’re looking for. I look at the end results and the master’s pay scale.
Would you recommend the program? And why?
Absolutely. There are proliferating changes. What do you want or need for mental health in life? We saw a lot of kids experiencing mental health problems during the pandemic. Gun violence is on the rise. If you look at the war in Ukraine, people will be coming here with devastation. Families are gone, mentally devastated. They’re coming, and the world will be tied down with mental issues. There’ll be plenty of jobs across the globe. Plenty of jobs. Good money helping people who are struggling. Plenty of work.
Saint Mary’s ‘second chance’ helps graduate student excel
It’s not often that a misunderstanding helps a student in their career path. But while the incorrect narrative LJ (John) Taugher M’20 heard as an undergrad delayed his entry to clinical therapy, it ultimately helped him succeed brilliantly.
After a two-week volunteer experience in high school set him on the path to pursue a psychology degree, Taugher received his bachelor’s degree in psychology and a minor in women’s studies. But believing he couldn’t pursue therapy, he instead worked for nonprofit organizations.
“The narrative I got was if you didn’t have a doctorate, you can’t do therapy, which was incorrect. So, at age 23 I went into nonprofit management and managed nonprofit organizations for 10 years,” said Taugher. “I developed an acute case of alcohol use disorder, left the profession and worked in mortgage banking for six years.”
Upon entering a rehabilitation program for the second time, he met a licensed alcohol and drug counselor (LADC) who changed his life, but not in the way you might imagine. Taugher was at the lowest point in his life, yet felt his LADC was so incompetent that he could do the job better than she did. After another clinician encouraged him to pursue a master’s degree and expressed that he could do well as a therapist, Taugher began evaluating colleges.
He learned that Saint Mary’s had a LADC program and offered a Master’s in Counseling and Psychological Services degree, and he was accepted into the program, despite not being a great student as an undergraduate. Taugher decided to pursue both simultaneously, and he appreciates how Saint Mary’s gives people a second chance to become a good student.
Virtual Reality Therapy
“I’ve used my master’s degree to work as an in-home therapist, Adult Rehabilitative Mental Health Services (ARMHS), and Children’s Therapeutic Services and Supports (CTSS) provider. Working at Ellie Mental Health, I also developed a new program that uses virtual reality to treat mental health issues,” said Taugher. “Ellie Mental Health started in the Twin Cities and has roughly 300 franchise clinics across the country. I’m one of two program managers of virtual reality therapy.” 
Before Ellie Mental Health would add virtual reality therapy, Taugher had to pitch it and develop a proposal to show empirical evidence that it was clinically effective and relevant, and that it met the CEO’s business requirements/expectations. Once he sold it to the executive committee, Taugher had to coordinate with Ellie’s IT, payroll, legal and facilities departments, as well as clinical directors.
Taugher also was a member of the Leadership Advisory Board at Ellie Mental Health. The board met with the company’s senior leadership to describe their day-to-day work – without having their observations and experiences filtered through layers of employees.
“Having a different (business) background with therapy skills was invaluable to the approval process for virtual reality therapy. I had to get buy-in from all those departments, and it only took eight months, which is insanely fast,” added Taugher. “It’s very unusual for a therapist to think like a businessman and understand how the business needs to be profitable. Having a business background has been incredibly valuable, and it’s been a prized resource.”
Geek Therapy
In addition, Taugher developed (with another therapist of Ellie) what he calls Geek Therapy because it integrates “geeky stuff” from video games, Star Wars, Harry Potter, Magic the Gathering, Dungeons and Dragons and more. He recognizes that the role of the clinician is to understand people’s passions, and to leverage and integrate them in a way that’s relevant and meaningful.
He also believes technology can make therapy more effective, and using video games can help clients and allow clinicians to bring stimulus into therapy in ways that would be very difficult or impossible. For example, it’s impossible to bring an MRI machine into your office, but with virtual reality, you can and have a therapist sitting next to you.
Finally, conversations on his passions with Dr. Lindsey Teigland, his program director, led her to ask Taugher if he’d like to co-create and co-teach a new elective course with senior leaders of Ellie Mental Health, Kyle Ross, and Kyle Keller. The class, Special Topics in Psychology: Emerging Therapies explores promising new treatment approaches using technology and virtual reality.
“Dr. Teigland and other Saint Mary’s faculty members provided support and encouragement when I didn’t think I could do it, and helped me see my potential,” said Taugher. “They helped me realize I could get my master’s and continue on to my doctorate.”
Reindorf overcomes obstacles to obtain her master’s degree
Born in Ghana, West Africa, Roberta Reindorf has done many things and lived in many places including France and London, but she didn’t discover her innate abilities or her life’s work for many years. While working in human resources, Reindorf researched depression and related disorders, and the more she learned about mental health, the more her interest grew.
“I wanted to see what courses I could take. I learned I could use counseling to teach and work in government, advocate for equality, and use my voice,” Reindorf said. “My goal is to be a mental health professional and provide diagnostic assessment when I graduate with my master’s degree in Counseling and Psychological Services. I’d also like to be a faculty member at Saint Mary’s because I like the diversity and inclusivity I see at Saint Mary’s.”
Reindorf faced numerous challenges in her educational pursuit. She had enrolled in a practicum at Saint Mary’s when her mother and sister passed away. Deeply stricken by grief, she couldn’t complete her practicum. After taking a year off, Reindorf was preparing to resume her studies when COVID-19 struck, and the world as we knew it shut down.
Another year passed and, as she returned to her studies in 2021, Reindorf’s husband died. At that point she questioned how she could continue. By this time a new program chair was in place who encouraged her to take care of herself and assured Reindorf she’d help her get through the practicum.
“Through that whole experience, I learned I’m resilient and strong,” she said. “I’ve been working in Ramsey County Children’s Mental Health as a mental health practitioner for five years. I completed my practicum; I’m finishing my paper; and will graduate in June 2023.”
Reindorf not only brings resilience to her new career, she is bilingual and speaks many languages; she is currently adding Spanish to her list. In Ghana, 50 languages are spoken, so students in her classes spoke many languages. Her language skills have been a big plus with her non-English speaking clients, and not using an interpreter helps her establish trust.
Reindorf also was appointed to the Race Equity Advisory Council (REAC) for Hennepin County by Jeffery Lunde, Hennepin County Commissioner of District One. The council’s mission is to strengthen the county’s goal of reducing racial disparities and advancing racial equity throughout the county.
“The REAC is diverse, and I’m able to advocate for non-English speakers and immigrants. In the future I want to transition into politics,” said Reindorf. “I’ve been a journalist and I love to speak and learn about programs, so I approached the general manager of Northwest Community Television Channel 12 (now CCX-Media). Now I have my own show.”
On the Roberta Reindorf Show, she brings in professionals and politicians, asking them questions and discussing advocacy, policies, education, health care, and more. Former guests include former U.S. Senator Al Franken; former Minority Leader of the Minnesota Senate Melissa Lopez Franzen; and State Senator Jim Abler. She hopes to have Minnesota Governor Tim Walz on her show in the future. She was also elected to the station’s board of directors for three years, ending in 2023.
Reindorf credits Saint Mary’s with providing her the opportunity to see her innate abilities and is surprised by how much she’s accomplished. She describes the university as a web linking her to her instructors and Dr. Lindsey (Teigland), her program chair. According to Reindorf, Dr. Teigland’s faith in her,helped her keep going in the face of tragedy and the pandemic.
“Along the way I’ve instilled confidence and grace in my two boys. I’d love it if my kids can see the resilience and forcefulness in me to reach new heights,” adds Reindorf. “My 17-year-old son wants to be a computer scientist, and my 9-year-old wants to be an immunologist like Dr. Faucci and bring solutions to the world’s problems.”
Four Saint Mary’s students take part in Innovation Scholars program
Four Saint Mary’s students had an opportunity to take part in a real-world learning experience through the Minnesota Private College Council’s Innovation Scholars program.
Through Innovation Scholars, Saint Mary’s students from across academic disciplines have an opportunity to research and make recommendations on innovative medical technology that is in development at Mayo Clinic and Medical Alley, a network of organizations in the healthcare industry.
The Saint Mary’s students who took part in this year’s Innovation Partners included Sophia Gannon ’24 (biology), Noah Kiemel ’24 (finance, business intelligence and data analytics), Luke Puffer ’23 (business intelligence and data analytics), and Emma Schuster ’24 (biology, pre-medical professions).
Since the fall, the team researched a new technology for stroke procedures and presented their findings to Mayo Clinic licensing managers earlier this month.
Matt Klosky, an assistant professor of business and adviser for Innovation Partners, says the program allows students to work in a cross-discipline manner, allowing students to break out of their “silos.”
“(For our students) This is a very good résumé builder in terms of demonstrating teamwork and partnering with people from diverse disciplinary backgrounds,” he said. “So this is a very interdisciplinary thing that gets you out of the heads-down technical aspect of the program you’re in and gets you thinking in a much broader sense about how an organization approaches these things.”
This year marks the 15th year of Saint Mary’s participation in Innovation Scholars.
Photo caption: Front row: Sophia Gannon, Rachael Rinehart (University of Saint Thomas MBA student). Back Row: Emma Schuster, Noah Kiemel, Luke Puffer.
Four alumni to be honored during Reunion Weekend
During Reunion Weekend each year, Saint Mary’s University honors outstanding alumni who have made outstanding achievements in their professional careers, who best exemplify the Lasallian charism Saint Mary’s was founded upon, and who have generously contributed time and talent to the goals and objectives of their alma mater. This year, four alumni will be honored during a reception and ceremony Saturday, June 24, on the Winona Campus. Register online.
This year’s Distinguished Alumni Award recipient is Paul Magallanes B’63 of Thousand Oaks, Calif.; the Alumni Appreciation Award recipient is Jerry Papenfuss B’62 of Winona; the Lasallian Service Award recipient is Jim Izzo B’75 of Oakbrook Terrace, Ill.; and the Outstanding Young Alumnus is David Dahlstrom B’10 of Austin, Minn.
Distinguished Alumnus Award
Paul Magallanes B’63
Paul P. Magallanes B’63 is an accomplished FBI special agent veteran and founder of Magallanes Associates International. With over 21 years of experience in the FBI, Magallanes has an extensive background in investigations, training, and security consultation. He began his FBI career in Tampa, Fla., where he was one of the first to work in an undercover capacity. Throughout his career, he played a key role in various high-profile cases: in the Watergate Burglary case, he developed critical information leading to the resignation of President Richard Nixon. In the Greylord Case, he exposed corrupt Cook County judges in Chicago while working undercover. He was later jailed and became a national fugitive under an alias. In the John De Lorean drug case, he secured half a million dollars in cash for the purchase of cocaine. Magallanes was a leading member in the landmark successful Class Action suit, Perez vs. FBI, against the FBI for discrimination in the workplace against FBI Hispanic agents. In addition to his investigative work, he coordinated security for the 1984 Olympic Command Headquarters in Los Angeles. And he received numerous awards for his outstanding investigative and undercover efforts and has been featured in various international media outlets for his expertise.
Alumni Appreciation Award
Jerry Papenfuss B’62
Jerry Papenfuss B’62 is embedded in the community and works tirelessly to ensure its success. He has held leadership positions in community organizations at the local, state, and national level. As part of his work in radio broadcasting, he provided community organizations with live interviews, news stories, remote broadcasts and public service announcements at no cost. Papenfuss also was a co-developer of the residential development of Knopp Valley and the AmericInn of Winona. In retirement he continues as a volunteer, philanthropist, and fundraiser. Recognition in the community includes: the President’s Award from the Association of Fundraisers Upper Midwest Chapter, Ben-Adith Miller Community Service Award, being listed in the Broadcasters Hall of Fame, the lifetime membership in the Winona Area Chamber of Commerce, Winona State University Distinguished Service Award, and the Benedictine Horizon Award. Jerry and his wife, Pat, have been married for 60 years and they have three married children and four outstanding grandchildren. For 57 years, Pat and Jerry and their staff, worked to develop 14 radio stations in five outstate Minnesota markets. They are active Republicans serving at the local, state, and national level. Last July, Jerry reached his 91st birthday.
Lasallian Service Award
Jim Izzo B’75
Jim Izzo B’75 graduated summa cum laude with a double major in history and political science at Saint Mary’s 50th commencement. In college, he was a member of Phi Alpha Theta (history honor society) and Pi Gamma Mu (international social studies honor society). He also proudly co-captained the wrestling team and served as president of Tau Kappa Epsilon. After graduating, he began a 44-year teaching career at Montini High School in Lombard, Il., where he served as teacher, student government moderator, class moderator, department chair, alumni moderator, coach, and athletic director before retiring in 2019. Throughout his career, Izzo lived the Lasallian mission, fostering character development in the many students he worked with along the way. He was awarded with Montini’s Lasallian Educator of the Year Award in 1994, was named Illinois Wrestling Coach of the Year in 1998, and was elected to both Montini’s and the Illinois Wrestling Coaches’ Hall of Fame. He has dedicated his life to serving and providing a Lasallian example to the thousands of young people with whose lives he came into contact.
Outstanding Young Alumnus
David Dahlstrom B’10
Hailing from Rochester, Minn., David Dahlstrom B’10 attended Saint Mary’s to study business and continue playing his lifelong passion, baseball. After an on-campus interview with Hormel Foods in 2008, he interned for the company the following summer and started full-time in the accounting department after graduation. In February 2022, Dahlstrom assumed the role of director of investor relations for Hormel Foods. In this role, he has numerous responsibilities including building and strengthening relationships with the investment community, leading the preparation and presentation of quarterly earnings materials, and communicating insight to executive management regarding company perception. Dahlstrom’s roots run deep at Saint Mary’s. His wife (Lindsey B’11), sister (Samantha B’12), and brother-in-law (Samuel B’12) all attended the university, and he cares deeply about keeping the strong talent pipeline between Saint Mary’s University and Hormel Foods alive and thriving. He returns to campus frequently to assist with career fairs, mock interviews, in-classroom presentations, fundraising events, and the business department’s strategies competition. He and Lindsey reside in Austin, Minn., with their three young children: Augie, Coralie, and Eddie.
Update on the arts at Saint Mary’s
The university continues to work on plans to provide students, beginning fall 2023, with strong extracurricular opportunities for participation and enjoyment in the arts. As reported earlier this year, Lynette Johnson was named senior director of arts and event services and has been hard at work reviewing resource needs, building relationships, and considering future programming. The program focus areas were refined after internal and external arts discussions and focus groups to gauge priorities and interest.
MUSIC — We are hiring a director of music programming and will continue offering band and choir opportunities. This role will serve as an adviser for pep band, offer lessons for students, assist with student recruiting, and would help bring in external residency opportunities. Ideally, we plan to have two music performances offered annually, one each semester, including the traditional Lessons and Carols event. As our music fraternities are student groups, they will continue to offer music variety shows.
THEATRE — We have hired a technical director who will start in June 2023 for the performing arts. This person has a teaching background and a strong background in running shows. The technical director position is an existing position that is now vacant and was not part of the phase-outs. Under direction of Jimmy Bickerstaff, two student productions will be staged in 2023-24 as we teach out the major.
PAGE SERIES TRANSITION — We are working on partnerships to engage community and professional productions to host their productions at Page Theatre and are working toward bringing back the Page Series. These public performances may take on a new name, and no timeline for bringing them back has yet been set as we are in the process of securing grants. The technical director, under the direction of Johnson, will be helping to oversee this work.
VISUAL ARTS — The 2023-2024 Lillian Davis Hogan Galleries schedule is being solidified, thanks to Lisa Truax. We will be looking at other ways to expand visual arts opportunities, including hands-on workshops as well.
We have been in conversation with various arts organizations regarding partnerships for workshops, productions, etc. In addition, we are examining future utilization of Studio S, and the on-going development of the arts program.
As more plans are solidified, we’ll continue to share them with our community.
Schroeder plans to support those with addictions and their families
Kim Schroeder admits she was nervous about going back to school to complete her bachelor’s degree.
“I hadn’t taken a class for 20 years, and I had never done an online class, so I was really nervous about that,” she said. “I’m learning the content but also how to learn again, how to do school again, how to upload a Google doc, so there was a learning curve, but it came so quickly. There were so many resources available. You guys give us access to everything we need.
“I quickly learned it was going to be doable,” she added. “Every instructor has been just easy to work with, very helpful and understanding.”
She chose Saint Mary’s because the curriculum and process seemed the most streamlined, the website was easy to understand, and faculty and staff were responsive.
Schroeder chose the B.S. in Applied Psychology program because she has an interest in eventually getting her master’s degree and creating a support or recovery coaching support program for those with addictions and their families.
“My husband is in recovery and I’m walking alongside him,” she said. “In the last 3½ years, I have learned so much about mental health and learned and healed from the family I grew up in,” she said. “This whole new world was opened up as I’ve learned about the disease of addiction which fascinates me.”
Schroeder said she had gotten a mental health coach certification and took a short course through Stanford and was thinking about the next step. Then, she said her husband asked her what she would do if obligations and money were not an obstacle.
She responded, “I would get my degree.” And he said, “You just need to do it then.”
Finishing her bachelor’s degree was something Schroeder had considered for a while but with three adolescent boys — active in sports and extracurriculars — timing hadn’t felt right. But she knew having a bachelor’s degree opens the doors to more employment options. “Even before I became interested in addiction, when I worked in the medical field, I would look at supervisor positions, but think, ‘Oh, but I don’t have a bachelor’s degree.’ ”
She found the online courses made it more doable. While most adult students talk about going night school, Schroeder said that wouldn’t have worked for her. “I have time during the day, because my kids are at school most of the time, and that’s when my window is,” she said. “And to not have to log into a Zoom at a certain time, to be able to do it on my own schedule worked well.”
Schroeder was surprised that even with online courses that she has gotten to know several other adult learners. “I feel more connected than I would have imagined,” she said, adding that she and other students sometimes text each other or connect online.
She also didn’t know if she would be learning alongside all 20-year-olds, fresh from high school. “There are some younger than I am, but also some older than I am. I am among similar peers,” she said.
Another pleasant surprise has been the ability to direct her coursework to her specific area of interest. “I was surprised at how much freedom I would have to be able to take what we were learning but then do my own research on the topics that interested me,” she said. “ I’ve been able to dive into this field of addiction. It was tied to my interests and what I’m passionate about.”
As she completes the program this spring, Schroeder has this advice for new or incoming adult learners. “You have to be able to see a window of time in your week or each day to set aside,” she said. “I’ve done two courses at a time, and I haven’t been able to procrastinate. I think you could fall behind if you’re not doing a little something each day to keep on track. With that said, the instructors have been so understanding. I lost my mom in November, but I’ve been able to stay on course. I wanted to stay on track to graduate, and I talked to my professors, and they were understanding about letting me be a little bit late that week on some assignments.”
Schroeder said she may not go directly into her master’s degree immediately, and she isn’t like many students looking to go job seeking with her newfound degree, but she won’t lose sight of her goal. Regardless, she said, she is applying what she has learned to her everyday life.
“This program has gone great; I’m so glad I did it,” she said. “If I go onto master’s or even if I never do, I feel like the program has changed the way I think and shaped me and opened up my eyes to applied psychology — all the influences that go into making us who we are and why we think and do the things we do. It’s changed what I bring into this house and into conversations with my husband and kids. I’m grateful for that.”
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President
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